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History | Press Release | Artists | Interviews
8-6-2003
What book do you casually put out on your coffee
table to impress visitors?
If I had a coffee table, this week it would be Siddartha
by Herman
Hesse, for the simple reason that I have been experiencing
a great deal of similar themes in my life lately. I
was the innocent seeker, then I became the young upstart,
then came the egocentric bastard with a rather cruel
streak, and then I noticed how inhuman I was acting
and remembered my favorite quote from the novel. When
Siddartha basically casts aside his old life, he seeks
the wisdom of a boat man he met a long time ago. He
seeks the answering voice of the river, which is the
now in all its shimmering beauty. One of the most influential
novellas of my early 20's, and still it carries itself
with me.
If you could meet one person dead or alive, who
would that be?
Walt
Whitman, because I want some of his personal, unwritten
insight into the nature of the poetic universe. Out
of all the poets, beat and otherwise, he was the most
universal and spoke a more ancient tongue of images
and heavens. Whitman was a man and not an egocentric
pop-star, yet he was famous in his lifetime for celebrating
what was worth celebrating and speaking the truth of
things instead of cowering behind money, power, ego,
fear and selfishness. Whitman embraced everything that
is noble and disgraceful, he was an endless supply of
clarity in the human experience, and he transposed it
to words in such a way that will never be forgotten.
What is your primary motivation to create music?
To express the tumult of energies and emotions that
I feel in response to the life that I live, and to create
some sort of aural language out of the madness that
goes on inside me that has no other language. Communication.
What advise do you have for beginning musicians/artists?
It's more of an exercise than a bit of advice. Take
any word, hippo for instance, and repeat it like a mantra
until it loses all connection with meaning. When there
is no little grey picture of a hippo in your head, keep
chanting hippo and explore the strangeness of the sound.
Breathe in and out, notice the feelings in your body,
relax, then scramble for an inkpen or a computer keyboard
and start typing the words that come rising out of your
unconscious. Don't stop to read or make things sensible;
don't stop for punctuation or to pretty up anything.
Let it all out. Take the gooey, nasty, filthy stuff
that's inside and let it go. Take the sappy, emotional
stuff and let it go. Pollute that page with the raw
entrails of your fervent mind, and only stop when you
are about to pass out from sheer exhaustion or dizziness.
You will feel like a million bucks afterward, and you
might just learn something in the process. What you
are writing is in fact the state of the universe at
that very moment. You are practicing the divination
of your own being. Since you can do this so effectively,
you can translate this strange juxtaposition, this chunk
of surreal beauty, this truth into sound or images or
vision or noise and produce something truly beautiful
out of it.
Is there a fellow musician you would like to work
with? If so, in what capacity?
I'm currently jabbering with some lifelong friends
about collaborating on things. It's only a matter of
time before that comes into fruition, one way or another.
In all honesty, I don't particularly have a desire
to work with anyone for any other purpose than to make
something beautiful. The people don't matter. I don't
matter, they don't matter. What matters is the third
mind that is formed out of the duet (a phrase coined
by brion
gysin and w.s.
burroughs). If there is a split in the shared consciousness,
any ego-friction getting in the way of innovation, then
it's not making music. It's merely piecing two ideas
together.
I'm all about collaborating, but I really don't have
a single musician I'd pick out of the bunch. But maybe
in a few years this will change.
What are you looking forward to right now?
I've been working nonstop on the new album (No Empty
Spaces). As much as I enjoy the process of final mixdowns
and pre-mastering, I really want to get this thing done
so I can start on another project. But I don't want
to rush it, because that will show up in the end result.
Because the next project is so much more eclectic than
the album I'm building right now, I'm yearning for it
on a deeper level. That's just me; I'm always a step
ahead of myself. I'm past this album already. In my
mind, it's already out there and doing it's thing, stirring
up other people and stretching my inner worlds into
other people's realities.
I really need to work in living in the now. But that
goes against the nature of the question...
Are there any bands/musicians you're excited about
right now?
Recently, my good friend Matt introduced me to a wave
of new electro bands. It's great to hear this stuff
evolving (devolving), getting clever, and splitting
off into billions of sub-genres like it always does.
But the most memorable 'new' thing I've heard lately
is Boards
of Canada. Mostly because they speak my language
in a way that no other artists have done in a long time.
Not since discovering p-funk,
miles
davis and early experimental music have I been so
blown away by a single artist. There's just something
elastic about them. Like a comfortable pair of underwear,
or standing in awe of great mountains in the spring
time. Or driving at night in a strange land ...
When you travel, what do you do for fun?
Since I rarely have any money, I enjoy doing everything
that's free in the places I visit. I enjoy history,
so I tend to do a lot of museums. I really dig art,
especially modern art, so art museums are the places
you'll find me on vacation. My wife and I travel together,
so we share the sights, and they are always new and
different. Especially when you don't have money, because
this keeps you away from the tourist-y things that prevent
you from actually seeing what is going on.
Probably the greatest thread in my travels of late
have been this strange obsession to visit old graveyards.
My wife says it has something to do with making me feel
more connected to events that span past single lifetimes.
She's right, but there's more to it than that. I appreciate
the artistry of the earlier tombstones; I see the juxtaposition
of the way people honored the dead, say, 100 years ago,
as compared to the uniformity and status symbology of
the modern age. I read tombstones to find the clever
words, the important words, and I love to guess as to
what people did in between the two years printed there.
I'm also an amateur ghost hunter. I don't buy fancy
hand-held devices or carry dowsing rods, but I do enjoy
the tingle in my gut when I know I'm in a place full
of otherworldly energy. More than anything, I want to
see a ghost so I can be sure that they exist, but whether
it's ghosts or not, something in the world is vibrating
at a different rhythm.
It's fun, it's real, and it's free. That is the meaning
of life.
What do you want the listener to get out of the
music?
As many other artists have proclaimed, I make music
because I enjoy the way it's put together. I get to
explore the textures and express things beyond words
in my music, and I always feel better after a good sit-down
with the knobs and editors.
But I do want others to get something out of my music.
The intent, the drive, of everything that I do is to
interpret my inner world, the reflections of my consciousness
in response to the experiences I have. This is a language
all its own, and I want the listener to hear the translation
and take it into themselves. I want the listener to
respond, like a conversation, in whatever way they express
that same language. Because we all know it deep down
inside, the language of aesthetics, of raw, unending
emotion, which is our direct connection to everything
that is.
People tend to communicate with consentual, rules-based
languages formed with tongues and thick textbooks. What
they don't always realize is that this is just one form
of communication, that other ways to communicate exist
that can be much deeper and more profound than speech.
Poets know this, which is why they continue to write
all the time. Poet's words can never compare to the
true language that is spoken in experiences, interludes
and moments of perfect aesthetic clarity, so they attempt
to keep up the best they can.
What is the greatest sacrifice you've had to make
for your music?
All those ridiculous technical manuals for the computer
software I should really know how to use have not been
read. Instead, I read technical manuals for things like
Cubase, Reason, and I hang out with other musicians
on the net to discuss the finer points of slicing beats
and mixing down.
The end result is, of course, a complete lack of real
social life. I have flesh and blood friends, but I don't
see them as often as I 'see' my online musician friends.
I am perhaps a little over-zealous with my art, as my
wife probably doesn't see me as often as she would if
I was a plumber or a carpenter. But then again, if I
was a plumber, I'd probably be out in the front yard
making sculpture out of flaking PVC pipe or something
equally bizarre.
Many people feel alienated by music, as opposed to
other art forms, because they have this preconception
that music is this super, professional package supplied
through some fantastic super-industry of art gurus and
geniuses. Music is easily misconceived because it doesn't
hang static on a gallery wall. It is art, but it isn't
lasting art. Music is sand mandala for the ears, easily
explored and easily forgotten.
You can't turn off a painting hanging in a gallery,
but you can turn off a song on the radio. You can't
forget a 1000 page novel written by a dead irishman,
but a 4-minute song by some skinny musician in Oklahoma
City is easily left behind in memory lane. The sacrifice
musicians make is that they are not going to be memorialized
in stone for generations, but this is also the benefit.
Those less concerned about leaving their mark will be
the ones more likely to live in the here and now. And
as a musician, this is the greatest sacrifice. Which
is liberating, come to think of it.
Music - it is the pouring out of self into temporal
jars that can be smashed with the flick of an electric
switch. The listener is the master controller, the owner
of the experience, and in the end musicians are but
the hands and feet of something much more timeless,
much more infinite, and much more substantial than the
molecules that make up their bodies and minds.
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